Please help me settle a minor debate. We have a radius of 5mm that connects two perpendicular surfaces. We trace the radius and then place it in a contour overlay (at magnification of 20X) to determine if all points are within the tolerance range. The part in question met this requirement. However, the part was rejected by our customer for "run out problems". It seems the part had a slight "bump" in the radius contour (that we WERE aware of) that they said should not be there. The drawing however does not indicate a "CR5.0" for CONTROLLED RADIUS, as stated on page 38 of the ASME Y14.5M-1994, sections 2.15, 2.15.1, and 2.15.2. There is only the connotation 5.0 on the dimension line. I contend, therefore, that the radius CAN be wavy and have "bumps" if all the "waviness" is contained within the tolerance zone. My colleague, on the other hand, contends that "they control that radius with the roughness spec". (the three little triangles on the dimension line...) I countered that you can't control FORM with a ROUGHNESS spec. He says you can...HELP ME!!! -- Also, there may be a conflict with the "language" used on the print. There is no ASME Y14.5M-1994 designation on the drawing. The only reference to a standard is made in regard to the serrations inside the bore and these reference JIS standards. There are several call outs on the drawing that are similar in appearance to ASME Y14.5-1994. Is there much difference between JIS and ASME Y14.5M-1994. Especially in the radius example given above?